Yesterday, 19 33 #1 tonkatoy Registered User
Joined Mar 2008 Total Posts 876 On the news today they showed footage of an e cigarette that exploded whilst being recharges.

It was a pretty dramatic explosion caught on a pubs CCTV. Fortunately no one was hurt, but the fire officer said it was the 18th incident they had been called to in North Yorkshire in 7 months. It seems that some of these devices are not safe.
Isn’t it time there was some regulation on the sale of these items. They have caused several fires and clearly quality control is non existent. tonkatoy View Public Profile Find More Posts by tonkatoy Threads Started by tonkatoy Yesterday, 21 38 #2 Alcoblog Registered User
Joined Jan 2009 Location Crookes (area 51 and a half) Total Posts 7,440 Status Online Quote Originally Posted by tonkatoy On the news today they showed footage of an e cigarette that exploded whilst being recharges.

It was a pretty dramatic explosion caught on a pubs CCTV. Fortunately no one was hurt, but the fire officer said it was the 18th incident they had been called to in North Yorkshire in 7 months. It seems that some of these devices are not safe.
Isn’t it time there was some regulation on the sale of these items. They have caused several fires and clearly quality control is non existent. Hey … there was a Samsung Galaxy caught fire whilst recharging, as seen in today’s Mail … it seems that some of these devices aren’t safe and clearly, quality control is non existent. Or could it just be one of those rare occasions … how many e cigs are sold? The ‘Barry the biscuit boy’ Cravendale milk advert scares the hell out of me! Alcoblog View Public Profile Find More Posts by Alcoblog Threads Started by Alcoblog Yesterday, 21 51 #3 denomis Registered User
Joined Dec 2008 Location In your face. Total Posts 5,491 Quote Originally Posted by Alcoblog Hey … there was a Samsung Galaxy caught fire whilst recharging, as seen in today’s Mail … it seems that some of these devices aren’t safe and clearly, quality control is non existent. Or could it just be one of those rare occasions … how many e cigs are sold? 18 out of probably hundreds of thousands is not bad, I bet more iPhones have exploded.
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Joined Nov 2009 Location Sheffield Total Posts 5,878 Can happen to anything with a lithium battery in it. At least e cigs don’t carry hundreds of passengers thousands of feet up in the air. We Build Any Website Web Designer anywebsite View Public Profile Visit anywebsite’s homepage! Find More Posts by anywebsite Threads Started by anywebsite Yesterday, 22 18 #5 Plain Talker Happy Hijaabi
Forum Helper Joined Feb 2004 Location scearu hoh, in the valle lacrimarum Total Posts 41,033 Quote Originally Posted by Alcoblog Hey … there was a Samsung Galaxy caught fire whilst recharging, as seen in today’s Mail … it seems that some of these devices aren’t safe and clearly, quality control is non existent. Or could it just be one of those rare occasions … how many e cigs are sold? According to the calendar news report, tonight, just like the issues with the Samsung galaxy phone which set on fire, apparently, the fire service found a non compatible charger was being used to charge the e cig. the Samsungs and the I phones which caught fire had counterfeit/ non compatible batteries or chargers being used on the phone. Muslim Women should not wear veils, says page 1 of The Sun…
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Joined Mar 2008 Total Posts 876 Quote Originally Posted by denomis 18 out of probably hundreds of thousands is not bad, I bet more iPhones have exploded. It was the fire brigade being called out to 18 incidents caused by e cigarette fires in North Yorkshire over 7 months. That would indicate there are over a thousand such incidents in a year in the UK, plus many more where the fire brigades are not called. tonkatoy View Public Profile Find More Posts by tonkatoy Threads Started by tonkatoy Yesterday, 23 56 #7 Phanerothyme Psychenaut
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Joined Jul 2013 Total Posts 174 Quote Originally Posted by tonkatoy It was the fire brigade being called out to 18 incidents caused by e cigarette fires in North Yorkshire over 7 months. That would indicate there are over a thousand such incidents in a year in the UK, plus many more where the fire brigades are not called. How do you arrive at that figure?

Also note the reply by Plain Talker immediatly preceding your post. RollingJ View Public Profile Find More Posts by RollingJ Threads Started by RollingJ Today, 01 35 #9 ash formerly djash1000
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Joined Feb 2010 Location West bank of Sheffield Total Posts 10,565 Building a cash for a ban, nothing more Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world. (Divide and conquer) Mecky View Public Profile Find More Posts by Mecky Threads Started by Mecky Today, 07 11 #11 Zamo Registered User
Joined Jul 2003 Location Totley Total Posts 3,838 Status Online I read in the Metro yesterday that the Fire Brigade recommend that people charging electrical devises shouldn’t leave them unattended! Like that is going to happen.

Real scary though… why isn’t the state nannying us properly and regulating the use of rechargers? I’m off for a poo now… could someone please notify the government so they can send an official round to wipe my asre? Thanks. Zamo View Public Profile Find More Posts by Zamo Threads Started by Zamo Today, 07 51 #12 L00b Registered User
Joined Sep 2008 Location Sur la Toile Total Posts 8,155 Status Online Quote Originally Posted by tonkatoy It seems that some of these devices are not safe.

Isn’t it time there was some regulation on the sale of these items. They have caused several fires and clearly quality control is non existent. Heard of the IEC? It is over a century old, after all.

Enforcement is Trading Standards’ job, btw. Has been for decades before the State started “nannying” as such.

I’m sure people won’t mind paying at least double for properly CE/TЬV/BSI compliant electricals, rather than the pennies cheapversions to which the sticker with the right size, colour and letters has merely been affixed. eBay and Amazon sales charts speak volumes in that regard

Cheap electricals? Buy cheap, buy twice thrice centuple.

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Jul 2003 Location Totley Total Posts 3,838 Status Online Quote Originally Posted by L00b Heard of the IEC? It is over a century old, after all.

Enforcement is Trading Standards’ job, btw. Has been for decades before the State started “nannying” as such.

I’m sure people won’t mind paying at least double for properly CE/TЬV/BSI compliant electricals, rather than the pennies cheapversions to which the sticker with the right size, colour and letters has merely been affixed. eBay and Amazon sales charts speak volumes in that regard

Cheap electricals? Buy cheap, buy twice thrice centuple. As you point out, we have regulations and laws re trading standards and therefore don’t need more. The problem in this case was buyer standards… the barman didn’t buy the right tool for the job.

People need to take ownership for consequences resulting from their decisions and actions and stop looking to the state to protect them from themselves. Zamo View Public Profile Find More Posts by Zamo Threads Started by Zamo Today, 09 50 #14 L00b Registered User
Joined Sep 2008 Location Sur la Toile Total Posts 8,155 Status Online That one did go over my head, Z at least I caught a glimpse of it quote updated in my post L00b View Public Profile Find More Posts by L00b Threads Started by L00b

E-liquid kills kids – 5 more e-cigarette myths dispelled

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Not that long ago, I wrote a post outlining 7 myths about e cigarettes that seem to be incredibly pervasive. It turns out that post was amazing popular, and I got a lot of feedback on the subject. Based on your suggestions, as well as some new myths that have popped up in the short time since I wrote the first article, I decided a sequel was in order.

Read on for 5 more e cigarette myths that are in need of a debunking.

1. There s a crisis of e Cigarette liquid poisonings

The Myth Little kids are drinking e liquid because it tastes like yummy candy and being hospitalized by the dozens.

Where d it Come From Primarily this article from the New York Times and many local news outlets reporting statistics from their local poison control centers.

The Reality This one is a very nuanced issue. First of all, e liquid poisonings are up across the board. This makes sense because the e cigarette industry has had explosive growth in the last two years.

I also don t want to trivialize the issue. I think it s incredibly important to raise awareness so that parents (and pet owners) properly store e liquid like any other potentially hazardous household chemical. The industry needs to ensure they are properly labeling their bottles and using childproof packaging. This is no longer optional.

That being said, many of the claims are quite outrageous. First of all while e cigarette vapor tastes yummy and e liquid might smell good, nicotine e liquid tastes absolutely horrible. If you ve ever gotten any on your tongue, you know what I mean. Second, most people who ingest nicotine will begin vomiting before they can really poison themselves. Long term effects from nicotine poisonings are uncommon.

The other big sticking point is that while these incidents are indeed real, and more needs to be done to avoid them, they are a tiny fraction of the overall poisonings that happen in the US. As has been pointed out, very common things like toothpaste are responsible for more poisonings.

2. e Liquid is available by the barrel in very high strengths

The Myth e cigarette poisonings are so common because e liquid in very high concentrations (100mg/ml) are available in very large quantities.

Where d it Come From The same damn article as above

The Reality Yes, DIYers and actual e liquid manufacturers can go out and buy concentrated e liquid for dilution online. Chances are pretty good barrel loads would be prohibitively expensive as they are meant for commercial production. You can get damned near anything on the internet. However, these things aren t sold as ready to use e liquids for casual users.

The concentrated stuff is not even flavored, it s just nicotine cut with PG or VG so flavors can be added in the final product.

3. e Cigarettes do not help people quit smoking

The Myth A pair of studies that claim to have found the prohibition holy grail proof of the gateway theory.

Where d it Come From A serious misunderstanding of sciencing

The Reality Both studies were deeply flawed and in both cases, the authors of the studies stated that there was no data to actually prove causality between using e cigarettes and smoking. Yet, press releases for both claimed that they did, in fact, have proof. The studies were debunked by countless people, including prohibitionist groups like the ALA and Dr. Michael Siegel.

4. e Cigarettes are just as bad for you as smoking

The Myth Users of e cigarettes are exposing themselves and others to the same risks as smoking

Where d it Come From Boneheads who really suck at math

The Reality This particular myth shows up in many different places with different wording. Usually it focuses on one thing for example, a study finding that vapers exhale formaldehyde. Then later, it s proven that everyone exhales formaldehyde. But by then, the allegations by the media and politicians tend to stick even without anything to back it up.

Common sense naturally dictates that a product with just 4 ingredients can t possibly be as dangerous as a product with thousands of chemicals, several of which are known carcinogens.

5. We don t know what s in them

The Myth There s no FDA regulation of e cigarettes, so we can t possibly know what s in e cigarettes.

Where d it Come From Multiple sources, prohibitionists, lawmakers and so on. It s a backhanded tribute to tobacco companies who sort of have a reputation for putting a crazy amount of crap in their products.

The Reality I feel like we ve been down this road before. There are countless studies about a number of things, including the components of e liquid. The idea that regulation is the only way to find out what s in something is idiotic. Most e liquid manufacturers are very transparent about what goes into their products. It s sort of a point of pride that there s so few ingredients.

Bonus Myth

Fox news ran a story that those wacky teens are putting e liquid in their energy drinks to get high. I m not even going to bother to write anything else about the subject. This one belongs in the file along with butt chugging.